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Wild-Kat
Wild-Kat
FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 18 2009, 8:12 PM EDT | Post edited: May 18 2009, 8:12 PM EDT
http://www.foxflash.com/div.php/main/page?aID=1z2z2z263z1z8&ID=4933

It's gonna be a long wait, but Season 8 is set to premiere on Sunday, January 17th, 2010.

24 fans, what are you gonna do to occupy yourselves until then?!
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bengali208
bengali208
1. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 10:46 AM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 10:46 AM EDT
Watch the DVDS and NCIS DVDs too........ 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Foolkiller
Foolkiller
2. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 11:09 AM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 11:09 AM EDT
I won't be back. This show jumped the shark hard with the addition of Garafolo and the liberalization of Bauer in the last 30 minutes. It's like the producers and writers this year went so far left they forgot how to write a script.

I waited til the very last episode for this abomination of a season to turn around, and it almost did with Tony's true intentions being revealed, but like I said, JG + the last 30 minutes of the final episode have cured me of any addiction I may have had for this show.

How freaking blind are these writers? Why add a cast member who openly despises this country and the show's viewers? If you want to put an Imam on there apologizing for beheadings and calls for jihad, fine. But don't castrate the hero of the show and have him apologizing to an Imam. That scene was like the final kick in the nuts.

The dialogue with Jack lecturing Tony about right and wrong after he breaks about 15 laws trying to save his daugther was just too much.

"Evil" Tony >>>> Castrated Bauer now.
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24fan
3. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 11:35 AM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 11:35 AM EDT
I could not agree more. Garafolo was totally unblievable and was a distraction from the show. It is difficult to separate the character from the real person. The comparison of Jack and Tony is absolutely right on. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
jean1121
jean1121
4. Confessing to an Imam
May 19 2009, 11:55 AM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 11:55 AM EDT
OMG....this show has really bit the dust! Another kick in the teeth to Christianity for the USA! Jack, you live in the USA and LOVE it right? Janis, green ads, and now this? Thhhhat's all folks! 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
jean1121
jean1121
5. What will I do???
May 19 2009, 12:01 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 12:04 PM EDT
Not wait around for Jan 17th. I will find another show to watch. "24" has signed it's death certificate with the final show...Janis got cudos from Chloe, Jack confesses to an Imam, and "Daddy"????? This is a grown woman calling her Dad, Daddy?
I did like the fact that the President turned in her daughter rather than cover it up as our politician's today tend to do things...but as for me, I am done with "23"....ooops, sorry, it just went down a notch in my mind!
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Foolkiller
Foolkiller
6. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 1:49 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 1:49 PM EDT
The only way I'd consider being around for Season 8 is if they fire ALL of the writers, find a way to wrap that C-4 vest around "Janis" Garafolo in the first episode during the opening credits preferably, and bring "Evil" Tony back to finish the job (Side note: in my opinion, that scene where he confronts Wilson is the most powerful scene in all 7 seasons).

Also, they need to bring back a new prez (she reminded me less of Thatcher and more of my kindergarten teacher who used to give me a single dry roasted peanut for each correct answer in class).

And I couldn't care less about the "new" Jack coming back. He's hypocritical and soft now, just like most libs. At this rate, Season 8 will feature Jack sporting a turban, running around breaking up interrogations and reading from the Koran. I can totally see him pulling a gun on Agent Walker during an interrogation saying, "You're going to hurt him if you keep grabbing him by the collar like that!"

Lastly, can we have another country besides the US be the bad guy now? How about Britain? I mean they're usually helping us feed and protect third world countries so they obviously must be evil too?!
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#1hotchfan
#1hotchfan
8. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 3:16 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 3:16 PM EDT
"Watch the DVDS and NCIS DVDs too........"
I can't believe they are releasing the season 7 24 DVD the day AFTER the finale ended! Never been done before that I know of - we usually have to wait months!
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bdplaid
9. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 5:32 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 5:33 PM EDT
"I can't believe they are releasing the season 7 24 DVD the day AFTER the finale ended! Never been done before that I know of - we usually have to wait months!"
They're doing it
to sell discs before the word gets around about how bad the season was...
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jack's#1fan
10. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 19 2009, 5:36 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 5:36 PM EDT
i plan to watch all the other seasons since i just started to watch this show this season and t personally can not wait until season 8 starts. Do you find this valuable?    

coco50257
11. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 20 2009, 8:14 AM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 8:14 AM EDT
This is just a show people! I love Jack Bauer and will really be upset if he is no longer on the show!! I thought the season was super, duper great:-) If the loose the people on the far right with their closed minds it can't be that many. I suppose they want 24 to put a Cheney character on the show and that would make them happy:-) Go 24!!! Just keep Jack Bauer!! Do you find this valuable?    
luvinJB4eva
luvinJB4eva
12. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 20 2009, 9:15 AM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 9:15 AM EDT
"This is just a show people! I love Jack Bauer and will really be upset if he is no longer on the show!! I thought the season was super, duper great:-) If the loose the people on the far right with their closed minds it can't be that many. I suppose they want 24 to put a Cheney character on the show and that would make them happy:-) Go 24!!! Just keep Jack Bauer!!"
AMEN, coco!!! I couldn't agree more!! :)
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luvinJB4eva
luvinJB4eva
14. RE: FOX Announces 2010 Lineup - Season 8 of 24 to Premier January 17th
May 20 2009, 10:28 AM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 10:28 AM EDT
"i plan to watch all the other seasons since i just started to watch this show this season and t personally can not wait until season 8 starts."
I'm so excited for you that you're watching all of the previous seasons!! This will really help you to appreciate even more what all Jack has been through over the years and will make you fall in love with 24 even more! I've been watching this show since litterally "day 1" and nothing else compares!!
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bdplaid
16. Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 21 2009, 12:43 AM EDT | Post edited: May 21 2009, 12:43 AM EDT
Rescue Me, Breaking Bad, Mad Men and Sons of Anarchy are all leagues better. It didn't used to be the case, 24 was a great show. But alas, the producers lost their way. Everything in 24 now is predictable, with one exception: the one thing I wanted to be predicable was Jack's rage and the extents to which he goes for the sake of American life. No more. Given this season's hand-wringing over Jack finding forgiveness, I guess he's found his "inner Mullah."
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AnnieCon
AnnieCon
17. RE: Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 22 2009, 12:14 AM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 12:14 AM EDT
I'll probably be catching up on the seasons I haven't watched. I watched 1 and 2 in about a week last December, but Day 3's Junkie Jack was a bit too much for me. I hate seeing him handicapped. =( However, I will try again.
As for Season 7, I liked that Bauer was forgiven by the imam but I'll be really ticked off if it significantly changes Bauer's character. Bauer needed to find some forgiveness and acceptance that in the end he is doing a lot of good too. I don't see why he should go through a huge change of character. This is who he is and while he may try to exhaust other methods when possible, he'll should still go to the extremes necessary when it comes down to it. If he doesn't, the show basically loses why people watch it.
Also the choice of the imam as the medium for forgiveness was a good one because the majority of Muslims are not bad people and 24 earned a bit of an Islam-bashing reputation (despite its efforts throughout the many seasons not to have that stance. Remember Reza and Marie and that (expected) twist in day 2?). It's wrong to label all Muslims as bad people. Someone in the posts above complained that Americans are labeled the "bad guys" and we're doing the same thing if we label the entire Muslim world as bad.
Garafolo was also a necessary character. She was the reality that there are people who strongly speak out against people like Bauer. They exist. This is a reality and if 24 wants to be relevant it cannot ignore that. I mean, Bauer put her in her place all the time, and she would bite her tongue and work, so the Bauer method still won out, it's still a conservative show. Heck, we even got a torture convert, Renee! I don't think the show went too far left. Showing the left isn't becoming the left. Garafolo was defeated by Bauer. Renee has some hair on her chest. Even Kim has become more conservative.
Good season!
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bdplaid
18. RE: Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 22 2009, 8:15 AM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 8:16 AM EDT
@AnnieCon:
I disagree. First. let me say that I (we) know that 24 is fiction and that none of it is real. However, it has to have some linkage to the real world to make it believable.

If you have ever known any guys similar to Jack (I have, and all they say is that they "work for the DOD"), they have no problem with what they do. They ask no one for forgiveness. I'm not sure that it even ebters their head whether something is moral or not. The question is, are my people and country threatened, and how can I help. The character of Jack Bauer moved away from that, worrying about himself, and his "soul." This will make a character such as his far less effective when the rubber hits the road concerning national threats and questions concerning life and death.

Ultimately, in 24, it's a question of believable personalities. Jack's is no longer believable.

As for Garafolo and her character, these were 2 different issues. Having an opposing viewpoint is one thing. But having a polarizing figure such as Garafolo was nothing but a distraction. We distrusted the real-life person so much that we could not focus on what the character of Janis Gold was doing. She was a poor choice for the role because she brought along too much offscreen information inseparable from the character.

Politics aside, the details were so inaccurate they weren't even wrong. A presidential Chief of Staff resigning in the middle of a national Emergency, to be replaced by the president's daughter (with no Washington experience). Puh leeze.

Jack getting a spinal tap in a "makeshift" treatment room. Had they done the stick that way, he'd have been paralyzed from the shoulders down. Spinal taps are done at the base of the spine for a reason. Further, he then jumps up, minutes later, and kills three bad guys. Puhluueze.

The show went stupid. I now find it laughable.
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AnnieCon
AnnieCon
19. RE: Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 22 2009, 12:02 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 12:02 PM EDT
I agree with you on the spinal tap point. I have no idea how a man who has at most 4 hours to live and just got a spinal tap can take down 3 physically fit and healthy grown men.
As for Olivia being appointed Chief of Staff, yes it's unbelievable but it's also a show and it had great shock value. The Olivia thing was an interesting sub plot and successful - it effectively made you hate that biatch for being such a manipulative witch.

Perhaps the reason I wasn't as affected by Garafolo is because I only fleetingly knew about her off screen activities and just took the character at mostly face value. I guess in a way when I see a very liberal and bleeding heart activist actor on screen, I don't get too bothered because I assume they all are and if the show tried to eliminate all radically left actors we'd have two people playing all the parts. But again, the fact I didn't know too much about Garafolo probably helped.

I'm not sure about the whole believability thing with Jack. I guess what I want to see is a man who can forgive himself and accept who he is and continue doing it because there is a greater good. My father served in the Navy and is somewhat like this. He's always said he hates guns because of what they can do, but he owns one and will shoot to kill if he had to. It's that kind of dual relationship with death that would give Jack a more rounded humanity in my eyes. While he's out there, he doesn't think twice, but during some down time he wonders from time to time "Did I HAVE to drag the man's family into this? Yes.. No.. Yes.. No.." That struggle is a very very human thing but it should never stop Jack.

If and when Jack gets soft, I'll join you laughing in the sidelines.
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jack's#1fan
20. RE: Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 22 2009, 1:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 1:26 PM EDT
i totaslly agree with you on all points and i just started to watch this show this season. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

24fan
21. RE: Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 22 2009, 2:41 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 4:28 PM EDT
First of all, the idea that all of what happens during a season of 24 could actually happen in a single day is unbelievable. As many have said, it is a show—a fantasy. It is escapism and I do not expect reality checks. I also agree that most people associated with the entertainment business are very liberal. However, while some are very vocal, most are not espousing their personal philosophy in such a public, judgmental and hateful way as Garofalo. Sex, religion and politics are very personal matters and most people keep their opinions to themselves on these matters—even actors. I am neither a right winged conservative nor a left winged liberal. Like most people in America, I am somewhere in the middle. I respect every person’s right to hold whatever personal beliefs they care to. It makes no difference to me whatsoever UNTIL they judge and attack others who do not share their particular brand of values. To publicly describe everyone who is concerned about the out of control spending taking place in this country as “tea bagging, red neck racists with neurological disorders” on national television is offensive on so many levels. One only has to look at the state of the California economy to see where that road leads. I am a Democrat who voted for Obama and I, for one, am extremely concerned about the path our country is taking regarding the economy, national security and Capitalism in general. Garofalo’s constant intolerant positions make separating her on screen roles from her on screen commentary impossible. Even when I am totally immersed and on the edge of my seat with the latest crises on 24, I do not see Janis (I cannot even remember the name of the character); I see Janeane Garofalo pointing her finger and spouting hateful opinions and stereotypes about her fellow Americans. Do you find this valuable?    

elecktra1983
22. RE: Stick a fork in 24, it's done
May 22 2009, 4:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 4:26 PM EDT
i want tony almeida back for season 8 and olivia it she going to jail or not i figured that her mother would have spared her even do she did it for a good reason i mean jonas hodges did have her brother killed Do you find this valuable?    
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